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Sunday, February 22, 2009

one of my purposes in this life is to be a blessing to others- so healthy works best!

I am happy to finally report after 4 weeks, that my weight and measurements are again FINALLY decreasing! :) I want to get in better health so that when I am so old that I need to have others help care for me, that I won't be any more burden than absolutely necessary!

It is an emotional (I've been an emotional eater) physical and mental struggle but I have finally dropped below 200 lbs! YEA for me! May it please God that I continue in this goal and succeed (and also any others with the same goals succeed too)! Gramajane

How to tell if something is official LDS doctrine

The format of this is a post I did in response to those who are not currently faithful LDS members, but CLAIM to have been members and so with rights to post stuff that the prof. anti have distorted etc- and INSIST LDS believe/teach it.

*STILL- those who have LEFT the church and especially who post without RESPECT on here are NOT NOW faithful LDS-
*and so for me, having like a “divorced spouse” their opinions possibly SO bitter/skewed- that just taking their word “at face value” is probably not a good idea,
*especially when I also am still a faithful worthy temple recommend holding LDS member, of 60 years- of full activity- almost constant callings (within a ward- and 2 small ones on the Stake level) then- I believe that what I say should have more weight.
*Also in that FIRST sentence of yours above, AGAIN with is shown a refusal to give due respect to the LDS faith- and IGNORING even correct English to capitalize a proper name, and IGNORNING the RED underlining that the software shows it KNOWS you are supposed to capitalize that word- some on here REFUSE to even show that tiny little amount of respect for LDS. I capitalize Evangelical, why do some refuse the same respect to LDS?

*For an answer with hopefully more weight than just “Gramajane” let me go to a book titled “Bridging the Divide” page 62.
*First this is a quote from one of the authors-. the Rev. Greg Johnson-- as this is a co-authored book by an Evan. & LDS. You might ALSO NOTE how respectful but still straight forward his QUESTION is! And he ALSO used to be LDS, but changed at age 14- so now being “on another team” respectfully and honestly allows those “ON the LDS team” to represent themselves!!!!
*The quote from the book was made from a TOGETHER edited tape of one of their joint presentations where they have a NON SCRIPTED discussion in front of audiences- with audience questions afterwards. – NOW to quote the book and the Rev. speaks first--.

*“ “Bob, many of my fellow Christians have noted how hard it is to figure out what Mormons believe. They say it’s like trying to nail Jell-o to the wall! What do you people believe? How do you decide what is your doctrine and what is not?” “

*(Gramjane again-- Now I will type in the very next words in the book- as Bob was narrating what happened before between them so Bob will express his feelings and then tell what he replied to Rev. Johnson.)

*”It was at this point that I sensed that we were in the midst of a very important conversation, one that was pushing me to the limits and requiring that I do some of the deepest thinking I had done for a long time. His questions were valid. They were in no way mean-spirited. They were not intended to entrap or embarrass me or the Church. He simply was asking for information.”

*”I suggested that he consider the following three ideas;
1. The “doctrine of the Church” today has a rather narrow focus and direction; central and saving doctrines are what we are called upon to emphasize, not tangential or peripheral teachings.
2. Not everything that was ever spoken or written by a Church leader in the past is necessarily a part of the doctrine of the Church today.
3. In determining whether something is a part of the doctrines of the Church, we might ask; Is it found within the four standard works, within the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great price? Is it found within official declarations or proclamations? In the general handbooks or approved curriculum of the Church today? Is it discussed in general conference or other official gatherings by leaders today? “

*”It is worth noting that most anti-Mormonism focuses on statements by Church leaders of the past that deal wit peripheral or non-central issues. No one criticizes us for a belief in God; in the divinity of Jesus Christ or his atoning work; in the literal bodily resurrection of Christ and the eventual resurrection of mankind; in baptism by immersion; in the gift of the Holy Ghost; the sacrament of the Lord’s Super, etc. But we are attacked regularly for statements in our literature on such matters as the following;
- God’s life before he was God;
-how Jesus was conceived;
-teaching about Adam as God;
-details concerning what it means to become like God hereafter;
-why Blacks were denied the priesthood prior to 1978, etc. “

*”While we love the scriptures and thank God regularly for them, we do not worship the scriptures. Nor do we believe in what many in the Christian world call “scriptural inerrancy.” We believe, for example, that one can have sufficient confidence and even reverence for holy writ without believing that every word between Genesis 1:1 and Revelations 22:21 is the word for word dictation of the Almightily or that the Bible now reads as it has always read. In like manner, we can sustain with all our hearts the prophets and apostles without believing that they are perfect or that everything they say or do is exactly what God wants said and done. In the same way that we do not believe in scriptural inerrancy, we do not believe in apostolic or prophetic infallibility. Moses made mistakes, but we love and sustain him and his writings nonetheless. Peter made mistakes, but we still honor him and study his words. Paul made mistakes, but we admire his boldness and dedication and treasure his epistles. James pointed out that Elijah “was a man subject to like passions as we are” (James 5:17), and Joseph Smith taught that ‘a prophet (is) a prophet only when he (is) acting as such.”.

*”So I suppose I’m suggesting this; Surely you and I will encounter theological differences between our faith traditions some difference may appear to be almost insurmountable. That is to say, we will disagree on certain matters, just as you might disagree with another Evangelical who has a differing view from you on the ordination of women or the manner of baptism or the gift of tongues. If we’re going to disagree, however, let’s disagree on the right stuff, on matters that we actually believe and teach today, not just something that was said years ago, but is not really a part of the doctrine of the Church. If you’re going to analyze The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, spend your time studying what the Church has become, what it is today, in the 21st century. Does that make sense?”

*”Greg: Do you folks hear what Bob is saying? I think what he has just said is very important, because it can help us to be honest and accurate and forthright in our conversations, in addressing the genuine differences between us. I think it is both important and fair to let Latter-day Saints define themselves and not to obligate them to believe and defend everything that might have been taught in their 180-year history”
End of quote from book “Bridging the Divide”. Back to my response to others post.

<” The current mormon church and its members are distorting it themselves, and have been for quite some time. For decades, they've hired major PR firms to change their image. They deny or dismiss the teachings of their founding fathers that are embarassing to them now. As much as you'd like to deny that, you can't, because it's true.”

*That is your opinion- but I hope that what I quoted will be of help to you and others.

<"It's too bad you see the truth as a "blow" coming next. It knocked the wind out of my sails when it happened to me too. But the truth is the most important thing."

*I think that the “truth” the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth AND in context is what is important! Hopefully what I have taken so long to type in will help you and others to see that LDS do NOT deny things said- but we DENY that they are the “official doctrine” of the church today. I’m sure that if I went and quoted from some of the Evan. Teachers- you would deny them. What about Obama’s Rev. Wright? Thanks for reading! Gramajane

Friday, February 20, 2009

12 Questions for the LDS Newsroom part 2

12 Questions for the LDS Newsroom, Part Two
Dave Banack, November 1, 2008
This is Part Two of responses provided by representatives of the LDS Newsroom to a set of questions submitted by T&S permabloggers. See Part One for the first six questions and responses.
7. It seems like the Newsroom came online just in time to deal with heightened media interest in the Church generated by the 2002 Olympics, polygamous groups claiming a historical connection to Mormonism, and the presidential candidacy of Mitt Romney. Was that just fortunate timing, or was there an earlier plan in place to beef up LDS Public Affairs and to use a site like the Newsroom to coordinate rapid and authoritative LDS responses to media questions and stories?
The Olympics certainly drove the rapid development of the Newsroom (originally However, like all organizations, the Church certainly would have developed a media site anyway, but a significant amount of resources were poured into it to prepare for the Olympics. That content became the foundation the site was built on. Since that time, an increasing amount of emphasis has been placed on Newsroom due to both news events and the growing role of the Internet in disseminating information during the past decade.
8. A Pew Research Center report published in December 2007 revealed, somewhat to the surprise of many members of the Church, widespread misconceptions and unfavorable views of the LDS Church and its members. These results were widely reported in the press. Does LDS Public Affairs have any initiatives in place, using the Newsroom or other resources, to address those misconceptions and unfavorable views?
Correcting misperceptions about the Church is a primary ongoing function of Public Affairs, but nothing new is being driven specifically by the Pew study.
9. In posts and discussion at Times & Seasons it often becomes clear that the issues and challenges facing members of the international Church are entirely different than those facing members of the Church in the United States. What sort of challenges confront LDS Public Affairs when trying to respond to questions from the international media?
Public Affairs has offices in areas of the Church throughout the world that respond to questions from the news media in their own areas. One of the primary challenges is that, generally speaking, media outside the United States are less familiar with the Church than U.S. media. The Church has established many Country Web sites to engage with the media locally.
10. To what extent does LDS Public Affairs reach out to LDS and non-LDS scholars as a resource for responding to issues discussed in the media? For example, “Looking Beyond the Surface: A Scholar’s View of Mormonism” (October 5, 2007) and “A Mormon Worldview” (January 8, 2008) both include substantial commentary by scholars.
Often the Church will refer journalists who call to scholars who are knowledgeable about specific or general topics relating to Mormonism. From time to time Public Affairs also quotes scholars who have a deep understanding of certain subjects and can clearly articulate a subject from an objective viewpoint. And since a large segment of our audience is not familiar with the terminology used by Church members, certain scholars, both Mormon and non-Mormon, have widely-recognized credibility and possess a unique ability to communicate to outside audiences. Particularly when Church history is the topic of discussion, scholars can provide depth and context from an objective viewpoint, which helps journalists get an accurate picture of the story.
11. The PBS series “The Mormons” (aired as a pair of two-hour documentaries) received a lot of media attention in Utah and continues to generate discussion in LDS circles. The Newsroom post “Opinions on PBS Programs Broad and Diverse” (May 2, 2007) gave high marks to the series for its “serious treatment of a serious subject.” What does LDS Public Affairs think of the overall media response to that landmark PBS series? Does that response give rise to hope or concern about how the media will cover LDS media events in the future?
These two posts on Newsroom adequately answer that question:
• “Media Responds to LDS Documentaries“
• “Public Response to PBS Documentaries“
12. As a final question, please share what expanded future role LDS Public Affairs sees for the Newsroom or other online resources. Is there a Newsroom 2.0 on the drawing board? Are the short videos posted at the Newsroom (which can be linked to or embedded in weblogs or other sites) seen as the wave of the future? Elder Ballard’s December 2007 speech at BYU-Hawaii (”Using New Media to Support the Work of the Church,” December 15, 2007) urging members of the Church to share their faith in online forums understandably generated a lot of discussion on LDS weblogs. When should we expect the first official General Authority blog?
Public Affairs has been watching social media closely since it emerged. We are constantly working on adapting Newsroom to better function in a new media environment. We’re currently working on some specific changes to the site, in addition to some we have made recently, which have included adding social media sharing features. Video will be incredibly important in the future, there’s no question about that. We intend to produce more of it and to continue to make it downloadable and sharable. You’ll likely see more in-depth, video-rich stories like we produced about Church members in Texas. We also anticipate the site will become more “conversational.” Elder Ballard’s emphasis on Church members using new media is having an impact. For instance, according to Blogpulse, President Hinckley was the 3rd most mentioned individual in the blogosphere the day after he passed away. We’re also seeing thousands of blogs that are linking back to the newsroom site. One of our new Newsroom audiences is Church members who are using new media. We try to provide content that helps them to discuss the Church with their own audiences. How and when the Church will begin blogging officially has been discussed, but is yet to be determined.
We are constantly trying to improve Newsroom. We invite Times & Seasons readers to send us feedback and to register to receive email updates from Newsroom.
Note: Here is a link to the video of Elder Ballard’s “New Media” talk referenced above.
Other Posts by Dave Banack
Categories: 12 Questions, Mormon Life
Tags: Church Organization and Structure, LDS, Mormon, Mormonism
11 Responses to “12 Questions for the LDS Newsroom, Part Two”
1. Way to use question 12 as a way to sneak in 3 questions!
Comment by SingleSpeed on November 1st 2008 at 7:34 pm
2. A GA blog? I’ll double my tithing the day BKP posts his own lolcat…
Comment by queuno on November 1st 2008 at 9:13 pm
3. Great job with this, guys. Newsroom has been a breath of fresh air; I appreciate learning some of the details.
Comment by Kevin Barney on November 1st 2008 at 9:48 pm
4. Great questions, great answers. Thanks.
Comment by Adam Greenwood on November 2nd 2008 at 12:44 am
5. Cool.
Comment by American Yak on November 2nd 2008 at 9:05 pm
6. This was an excellent pair of posts, thanks to T&S and the Newsroom.
Comment by sister blah 2 on November 2nd 2008 at 11:10 pm
7. Thanks for the posts.
Comment by BHodges on November 3rd 2008 at 1:52 pm
8. I love LDS Church, i have really help my self and family why studing the truth. Thank and Glory to God.
Comment by Ohis Sukuma on December 1st 2008 at 6:11 pm
9. I would like to see the Church Newsroom,, or tackle the tough questions that “anti” are always throwing out there (e.g. YouTube). How do you intelligently defend yourself when you have…. nothing.
Comment by Andrew Curtis on December 31st 2008 at 11:00 pm
10. Andrew, are the topics covered at these apologetic web sites what you’re seeking?
Comment by Bookslinger on January 1st 2009 at 12:46 am
11. Good Evening:
RE: personal comment
After having read some of the Anti-Mormon web sites, ( see question #9 of the Times and Seasons interview), I came away with a few feelings of amazement, unbelief that a person could make such mountains of mole hills, pretend to know everything about nothing, write such babble to appear as exposing some scandalous bit of information, to cause a fight, or put somebody down.
Most of the time, if one were to study the background of each article, they would find the main contention mute, previously dismissed, aAny intelligent person would just say, “So what? How does that affect my testimony?”
Although I don’t give them much credit for spreading truth, or being objective in their statements, they have their constitutional privilege to speak their minds. They have the same right to say what is on their mind as we do..If we were to force them off of the web, we would be no better than the people who are trying to take a shot at the church over California’s Proposition 8.
The best way to take care them is to leave them alone and ignore them. They thrive upon challenges, disagreements and arguments.
Once they find out that they are not being listened to, one of two things will happen. First, they will soon find another topic to criticize to criticize and go away. Secnd,somebody who is searching for the church may be converted through further investigations of doctrine of principles promoted by tdhier wild discussions and revelations.
Although I don’t believe them, they aren’t hurting my testimony. Once in a while, I get a good laugh about some of the ridiculous, one sided remarks. I let the rest of the “stuff” go out the window….
Even though we are run by humans and make mistakes, It doesn’t diminish the validity of the doctrine or purposes of our history or people..
Thank you for hearing me.

12 Questions for LDS Newsrom, part 1

12 Questions for the LDS Newsroom, Part One
Dave Banack, October 30, 2008
Representatives from LDS Public Affairs who manage and direct the Newsroom site at agreed to respond to a dozen questions submitted by the T&S permabloggers. We are pleased to post the first six questions and answers below, with the second set of six to follow shortly. We appreciate the time and effort that went into preparing these detailed responses. They should help make the Newsroom an even more useful resource for LDS readers.
1. First, tell us how the Newsroom site at got started and what the initial goals for the site were. Was LDS Public Affairs assigned the task of developing and managing the site from the very beginning? The site description at the Newsroom homepage identifies it as “the official resource for news media, opinion leaders, and the public.” Was that the original mission of the Newsroom? began as a few years prior to the 2002 Winter Olympics. The primary goal was to provide resources to the thousands of journalists who covered the Church during the Olympic period. That original site was translated daily into 14 languages and included about 100 pre-written “story packages” for the international media to use when covering the Church. While the main focus was the Olympics, the site was created at a time when the Church was starting to develop a strong Internet presence.
The media site was and has always been a Public Affairs project. It’s unique among Church sites in that its primary audience is not necessarily Church members or those who are considering joining the Church, but “news media, opinion leaders, and the public.” The original site was directed more exclusively towards the news media than other opinion leaders and the public. tries to reach a broader audience to adapt to the Web 2.0 world and the emergence of social media, recognizing that those technologies have enabled many more people to shape opinion.
2. The term “official resource” in the Newsroom site description raises the question of just how official the content of the Newsroom is for members of the Church. It certainly offers journalists, for example, a reliable and quotable source providing an LDS perspective and response to issues and events that concern the Church. On the other hand, apart from quotations attributed to LDS leaders in many of the posts, there is no statement of who is authoring the posts or who has reviewed or approved them. is an official source for information about the Church. Like Church publications, such as the Ensign, Newsroom accurately represents the beliefs, policies and practices of the Church. Even though attribution is not given for articles on, all items posted on the site follow a thorough review process so they can be reliable and official information. The focus for Newsroom content is to help “news media, opinion leaders and the public” understand the Church. It is written specifically with those audiences in mind. Newsroom content should be helpful to Church members in understanding and explaining public issues related to the Church. But there are other, excellent Church sites that provide gospel-related information specifically for Church members.
3. Some posts at the Newsroom, such as “The Religious Experience of Mormonism” (June 6, 2008) and “The Grand Enterprise of Mormonism” (July 8, 2008), seem to offer interpretation and guidance concerning scriptures and doctrine, as well as more general commentary concerning the mission of the Church. That sounds a lot like the role traditionally filled by First Presidency features in the Church News or the Ensign, or even by General Conference talks. Is this an intended role for the Newsroom?
The role of Newsroom is to help the news media and other audiences better understand the Church, its practices and doctrine. One of the great things about new media and the Internet is that it allows organizations (and individuals) to provide additional context and clarity on an issue or story that is often lacking in mainstream media news stories, because of space and other constraints. We’ve created the “Commentary” section on Newsroom, for example, to give more background on issues where just a quote or sound bite in the news doesn’t fully explain the issue. Posts on Newsroom do provide a Church perspective and an official voice helping to explain an issue, but they can be different than an authoritative statement from Church leaders. For example, Newsroom commentaries might explain existing positions and doctrine in terms the news media and public understand. Going back to the Ensign example, it’s like an Ensign article authored by staff or a Church member compared to an Ensign article authored by a General Authority. Because they’re both published in the Ensign, they both accurately represent the positions of the Church. The difference, of course, is that the General Authority article comes from an ordained Church leader. Some content posted on Newsroom is clearly labeled as being an official statement from the Church in general or from the First Presidency in particular. Other content, such as the “Divine Institution of Marriage,” is carefully reviewed and sometimes edited by the First Presidency or the Quorum of the Twelve, but not labeled as such.
4. Recent posts at the Newsroom have dealt with very general topics like LDS theology (”Approaching Mormon Doctrine,” May 4, 2007) and the role of Mormon history (”Approaching Mormon History,” July 5, 2007). Other posts clearly respond to confusing or inaccurate statements on a particular topic addressed by the media in the current news cycle (”Answering Media Questions About Jesus and Satan,” December 12, 2007). How do you decide what topics or stories to address by way of Newsroom posts?
Public Affairs periodically addresses an issue when a story breaks in the news media that requires an official response or simply more context and clarification. “Answering Media Questions About Jesus and Satan” is an example of that. Other commentary topics cover issues that arise repeatedly and are not necessarily driven by current news events. These are intended to remain on Newsroom as background for journalists, bloggers and others who visit the site.
5. How are the positions that LDS Public Affairs takes in the posts at the Newsroom actually coordinated? Is there a senior LDS leader or a committee of leaders that reviews and approves posts, or does the supervising individual or committee merely establish policies that guide the Newsroom managers, who then make independent publishing decisions? A related process question is how — given what some might assume to be a slow-paced bureaucratic management structure — you seem to be able to regularly post substantive responses to media stories within a short 24-hour news cycle window.
The level of approval required depends on the nature of the item being posted. Routine stories are approved within the department. All content is also reviewed by Church Correlation, the same body that reviews other Church publications such as magazines, curriculum, etc. There’s an understanding at all levels that the process needs to move quickly to accommodate the speed at which news and other information is traveling.
6. Please comment on how the mission of the Newsroom has evolved since its inception several years ago. For example, the site seems to have become an important resource for quickly disseminating authoritative statements of senior LDS leaders to the general membership of the Church, such as the statements on political neutrality or stem-cell research posted in the “Public Issues” section or the February 21, 2007 post “Missionary Safety.” It seems like that use of the site was not one that was originally anticipated.
Public Affairs can now provide more public information about the Church because we are not constrained by the filter of the news media. The Internet, and specifically the Newsroom site, allows us to post additional contextual and background information, even entire interviews that wouldn’t be included in a news story. The interview Public Affairs conducted with Elder Oaks and Wickman on same-gender attraction is a good example of that. The Church wanted to provide an exhaustive interview on that subject to help readers understand the Church’s stance on the issue. While a news story would have reduced the interview to a few quotes, we were able to provide 15 single-spaced pages on Newsroom. So one of the ways the site is changing is that, in addition to providing resources for the news media to use in their stories, Newsroom has become a news source in itself, which is just as accessible as any news website.
Other Posts by Dave Banack
Categories: 12 Questions, Mormon Life
Tags: Church Organization and Structure, LDS, Mormon, Mormonism

Thursday, February 19, 2009

a typical week day for me this past month Feb 09

Thought some of you might like to read this.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
My son had a class paper that he was supposed to collect data for and asked his family to answer this question. Here is my answer.

1. Describe a typical day. give LOTS of detail-- or you can just recall
everything that happened yesterday/today

Unfortunately, my days usually start before the “Light of Day” as they
often start in the “wee hours’ of 2:00 or 3:00 am and I am thankful if I
can get back to sleep again, even then, if I only sleep until 5:30---
which for me a “good nights sleep”. Part of this is because I have past my
60th birthday, and my bladder wants to be emptied several times a night-
but if it is only that that wakes me, then I can usually go back to sleep,
as long as my mind will not fill it self with concerns- and then keep
those rolling around, like things to remember to do, or things I am trying
to forget/forgive others for, things I hope will not happen, you know---
worries? Sometimes I can start just praying and talking to God about all
those things, and that only as I said, sometimes helps enough to let me
return to sleep, “perchance to dream”.
Other times though when I wake “before my time”, my body seems to wake me
as it has suddenly gotten so warm that I can’t stand all the covers on me
any more. I used to throw off the top comforter and hope that would allow
me to sleep- but after my dear husband began to worry that he was getting
hot flashes, we realized that symptom seemed to come for him only after I
had thrown my covers off of me but not consciously meaning to, onto HIM!
So I then tried to see if I could just stick one leg out- into the 65
degrees that we keep our rooms to at night- may bare leg sticking out
there into the dark with NO covers on it at all, not even a sheet, and IT
would begin to cool me down a little, but then the contrast of the cold
and the warm would seem to do battle- while the worries of the mind would
have flooded in to steal away my peaceful slumbers. Next, I would
sometimes try to just get in a better position- leg up, other arm down,
turn my head the other way on the pillow, or turn totally on my side, one
hand under my cheek, with the other arm draped over my body. Sounds nice
huh? Yet- change of position- once sounds nice, but when it could be
called my new aerobic horizontal dance to obtain sleep, it obviously is
counter productive, AND it keeps ones’ husband awake at night too.
So All the “usual things tried”, if none have worked- then I just try to
gently sneak out of bed, and close the door to our bedroom, so that any
noise I make or the light from out office, which is off our bedroom won’t
disturb him. Oh, I forgot- about some other things I have done to delay
the start of my day and I will just list these as they appeared in a
magazine (probably the Readers Digest?) they are; do not keep a clock in
the bedroom, do not allow any light in the bedroom, do not do any work
activates or leave work lying in the bedroom, turn off and even unplug
the internet receiver to lesson any wireless “activity” from interfering,
and increase my calcium intake.
So, now I am in my nightgown, and as I keep my bathrobe in the bathroom
so I don’t have to move around in the bedroom anymore that absolutely
necessary, (remember my hopefully still sleeping dear husband?), I can be
warm enough as I start my “day”. I still don’t want to make any noise- so
one choice is to write in my journal, which if it is heat that has awaken
me, I still put my bathrobe on, but I don’t turn up the furnace (we must
not add to the utility bills unnecessarily!). If it is worries of the
mind that prevented my return to sleep and it is winter- then I add socks
and a blanket, and still try not to turn up the furnace. Some times
though- it is just so cold that I turn it up anyway- well, if it isn’t
WAY, WAY early.
So, if it is journal writing, I sit in the brown velvet swivel rocker
recliner, that is in the middle of the house as possible (hoping for more
heat?) and turn on the light on the table next to it (though it is on the
wrong side, my right side, so a shadow falls on my page- I do NOT want to
sit in the other brown velvet rocker, because IT is under the window and
this house needs new windows- it is a drafty 105 year old red brick
Victorian- and the old lady is decidedly chilly. I guess that works to
mean both of us?
Where were we? Oh, yes, writing in my journal can take an hour, if I
haven’t done that “wee hours” activity for a while- but with cold fingers
(even if the rest of my body was so warm that it woke me- now is that
fair?) the poor hand writing that stumbles along out of the cold pen, in
this shadowy light, done with fingers that feel like they should be white
with frostbite, might cause one to wish for the Biblical Urim and
Thummim- that the Mormon Prophet, Joseph Smith used to translate the Book
of Mormon, even for me the writer- yes, even helpful for me, on something
I just wrote a paragraph ago! I’m 60!
Now, I could, if I am feeling either cold enough in my hands to want to
warm them, or guilty enough for not doing it before I went to bed- go and
clean up the kitchen and wash the dishes. Then my dear husband will be
happier in the morning, as he likes to cook breakfast for us both in a
clean kitchen (his favorite, I am thankful to say in this our autumn
years is oatmeal- which he likes to add blueberries and nuts to- instead
of his OLD favorite- pancakes with butter and syrup, with hash brown
potatoes, and fried eggs or bacon! Yes, thankfully he is more health wise
these days!) Though if I am just too tired physically to stand on the
cold hard floor (I really must get myself some new comfortable slippers-
or at least look long enough in this three story, 20 room house to find
my old ones), oh, did I mention that there is not one bit of insulation
under the floor boards? So now you know! (Ok, I COULD buy one of those
cushiony rubber kitchen mats to stand on!)
Now, the journal is up to date- and with the Scriptures sitting right
next to me on the little table, I like to read for a half an hour a
day—and usually I can before the computer seems to call me from back in
our office. It seems to say, “Gramajane, come on over--- you might have
some interesting emails to read and answer- maybe even something
important to respond to—maybe someone wants to buy your home that has
been on the market for almost a year!!!” So- I find my self suddenly
MORE awake as I first make sure the volume on the lap top is turned all
the way off, as I don’t want that little “turn on jingle tones” to be
wake up music for my dear husband! It is too early! It can even sound
scary in the empty, early, cold, dark, drafty house!
I have Meridian Magazine for my home page, and in that way I can catch up
on the latest international news that might be expected to be interesting
to a Saint of these days. Not that I am bragging- but “Saint” is just
what the members of the original Christian Church in Bible times called
each other and themselves, and so as my church claims to be the
re-established original Christian Church, our official name is “The
Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints” (aka Mormons or LDS). Why
did it have to be re-established? Well we believe 1. Jesus organized a
church 2. Men changed it 3. It has been brought back --- as prophesied in
– “Revelation 14:6-7 6 ¶ And I saw another angel fly in the midst of
heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on
the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour
of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and
the sea, and the fountains of waters.”.
So, now I am sitting at the computer, and I sometimes check my email
before I read the online M.M. magazine- where often things look SO
INTERESTING that I don’t even GET to read the magazine for hours. Are you
wondering what is so VERY interesting? Did you guess that I might be a
“cyber missionary”? I mean, I did already quote scripture, and give the
basic message of the gospel- right? Our prophets HAVE told us to all work
to be “member missionaries” and that has been a love of mine (to share
the gospel- NOT to debate scriptures!) since I was twelve years old.
This is funny- I just noticed that suddenly with thinking of the gospel,
I have jumped to all caps for emphasis. I will work to control myself.
Now- how do I know someone wants to discuss the gospel? I will often find
that I have 30 or more names of people in a list from Face Book, saying
they responded to a post of mine on the “All Christians on Face Book” and
within the thread “Ask A Mormon”. Isn’t it great that I can respond,
even though others still may be sleeping? So that is what I do. I have
been on this site for about a month- and thankfully it has less “TELL
mormons what they believe” (yes I purposely didn’t put a capital on the
proper name and nick name, Mormon- as I was representing how they rudely
do even that) even though it is less often on this Face Book site. Also,
invariably those type messages (TELL the mormons) always seem to
purposely distort what they SAY are LDS teachings too- though they
usually claim to be former LDS, and so should know better- but then I
think (from their posts) that they are bitter/sour grapes and on purpose
do that to try to discredit and destroy my faith. Isn’t that un Christ
like? I sure think so, and God will judge their hearts, and mine. I work
really hard to be as respectful as I can, and say things like “I
believe”, “I understand” instead of stating things as “facts”, as so many
of them do, even when they are distorting almost beyond identity!
So, some days (more than I like to count actually) most of my morning and
sometimes all day, I will spend “defining” our LDS official teachings and
beliefs accurately- that at least if there may be some of those who only
READ, and don’t write, to push the distortions on us, may see the truth!
The things I do on days that I don’t let my self get “caught up” in the
joy of sharing the gospel are the usual mundane things of house keeping.
You know, vacuum the carpet, dust, do the laundry, pay the bills, pick up
the clutter, change the bed sheets etc. Of course I have always chosen to
work on the principle of “selected neglect” as if something doesn’t NEED
to be cleaned, I don’t clean it. I mean, why wash windows more than once
a year that nobody looks out of? I do draw the line-- in that no one is
to write a DATE in the dust, as that could ruin my claim of it being
extra dusty in this tiny Idaho town that is surrounded with fields on one
side and desert on the other.
So, by now it may be almost lunch time (did I saw my sweet husband often
brings me bowl of oatmeal to the computer for me- so I can continue to
“save the doctrine from distortions”? He is a DEAR husband! ) but the
morning dishes (and possibly last nights too!) are waiting in the kitchen
sink, so now to be sweet to my sweetie, I rush in to make the kitchen
clean for lunch. We eat, and talk (he gets too jealous of my time if I
should stay o the computer when he is home for lunch!) and sometimes we
will work together on some home improvement, as he is out of work right
now, and will have spent most of the morning in pursuit of some- but he
is a DO IT guy and can’t stand that for long. It is a blessing to be
getting the things done that cry for it on this house! We must look at
the bright side right? I mean, he is a “workaholic” and would never find
time for the house (though he does like to do it) when he has another job
to be working on.
So, sometimes, after lunch, if I began my day in the wee hours, then I
try to take a nap on the couch. If my mind still will not slow down
enough- then I go back and do some more cyber missionary work. I love it!
It may be that I will get a phone call about 6 am- to go sub teach in one
of our district school. In the months of snow though, I have discovered
it is not safe to go out of our local town as the wind can create such
drifts that sometimes you can’t get home! Also, my present car is not
four wheel drive, though even those can’t get through sometimes as they
CLOSE the whole road! Did I mention- we are rather remote here? Yep, yep,
If I have taken a nap, then I am up by 3:00, and either do house work, or
maybe some sewing (I make costumes) or maybe I get woken from my nap by
one of my daughters calling for a chat. That is so nice! I get the mail,
sometimes go for a walk (less often than I should!) or prepare my
Primary class lesson for Sunday.
Then before you know it, it is time for my dear husband to come home from
work. If he is late (as he used to be when he had work to do in his
shop) I call him and remind him that his Father (who lives right next
door) will be hungry and we want to feed him healthy food, as if we don’t
it will effect us all if he eats before we have the healthy stuff! He is
When dinner is done, if I am beastly active (have had a nap) then I clean
the table before they leave the dining room, and begin the dishwasher as
we walk to the kitchen to check the news on TV. My dear husband likes to
watch TV to relax, and sometimes Great Grandpa will join us for awhile-
but it isn’t long till he walks back out to his cabin. Then my sweetheart
and I may channel surf, --- we like the Home Improvement channel, or he
likes Discovery or History Channels, or often BYU TV has something good
on too. If there is nothing on, we may go get one of our old videos and
watch a classic we haven’t seen for years, or if we have picked up
something “new” from the Deseret Industries Thrift Store, we will watch
that till I call a break at 8:00 for our nightly scriptures and prayers-
when we may continue to watch or I may head to bed—finally sleepy!

hopef for my future

9. What are looking forward to in the far future (5-20 yrs) try to cover
different fields and different aspects of it and explain why.

A. In the far future- (I am not sure how much time that will be as I’m already 60), but I am looking forward to getting to live with my son Eric and his wife Tressa, and MAYBE they will at least have their youngest child still home with them, and maybe their other kids will come to visit often, so I can get to know them better too. I hope that all my children and grandchildren will want to visit with me and share their lives with me.

B. I do so hope that in the future, my husband and I can go on a couple mission, but he is such a workaholic, and we lost the majority of our assets which we had put all our savings into when others in our company forced it into bankruptcy- that we may not be able to afford to go unless something changes in a BIG way.

C. I look forward to getting to visit the Eastern USA, and Tour and follow the historic places where my church began. I want to visit the Sacred Grove, and the Kirtland temple and the Nauvoo Temple. I would like to go WITH as many of our family as we could, maybe in RVs or a really good Tour bus, so we could sit together and have seats that really recline too.

D. I would really enjoy going to Germany and seeing the town where my ancestors lived, the castle, and get to search and FIND all their names to do the family sealings, baptisms, and marriage sealings etc in the Temple for them.

F. I hope to be able to continue to do cyber missionary work, especially if we can’t go on a couple mission.

G. I hope to make our extra rooms in our Oakley home a Bed and Breakfast, and out WA. home into a vacation rental by owner. It has been fun to decorate them, and there is still more to do, to get them ready. Or if we could sell our WA home, then we could pay off this one, and hopefully get some health insurance.

17 points of the True church- compiled from Bible by 5 men of different faiths

17 Points of the True Church
1. Christ organized the Church (Ephesians 4:11-15)
2. The true church must bear the name of Jesus Christ
(Ephesians 5:23)

3. The true church must have a foundation of
Apostles and Prophets (Ephesians 2:19-20)

4. The true church must have the same organization as Christ's Church (Ephesians 4:11-15)

5. The true church must claim divine authority(Hebrews 4:4-10)

6. The true church must have no paid ministry
(Acts 20:33-34; John 10 11-13)

7. The true church must baptize by immersion (Mathew 3:13-16)

8. The true church must bestow the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands
(Acts 8:14-17)

9. The true church must practice divine healing (Mark 3:14-15)

10. The true church must teach that God and Jesus are separate and distinct individuals
(John 17:11; 20:17)

11. The true church must teach that God and Jesus have bodies of flesh and bone
(Luke 23:36-39; Acts 1:9-11; Hebrews1:1-3)

12. The officers must be called by God
(Hebrews 4:4; Exodus 28:1; 40:13-16)

13. The true church must claim revelation from God (Amos 3:7)

14. The true church must be a missionary church (Mathew 28:19-20)

15. The true church must be a restored church (Acts 3:19-20)

16. The true church must practice baptism for the dead
(1 Corinthians 15:16&29)

17. "By their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthew 7:20)

Scriptures completed with Bible? (email to another)

>Jane. God says the Scriptures are completed. Sorry you have trouble with this.

Actually I don’t have trouble with it. I know about one Bible scripture that others have told me they believe means that there should be no more scripture after it. – It is Rev. 22:18 and it’s near the last verse in the Book of Revelation, which is the book placed at the end in the Bible, so I understand why they would think so. Here is that scripture with the verses before and after it for context;---
Rev. 22: 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, aCome. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the bwater of life freely.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall aadd unto these things, God shall add unto him the bplagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the abook of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I acome quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Did you know that the Bible is made up of different “books”? Bible=Biblia or Library or books. We have the BOOK of Genesis through the BOOK of REV. Each ONE is called a BOOK. --- The books were not put together as we now have it in the Bible, until hundreds of years after the last books in it were written.

Even then, they had to sort through MANY books to decide what was true and what was false etc. That is why we find other books referred to as scripture in the Bible, that are not in the Bible, (by the way, thanks for getting me the reference that Jesus quoted about ye are gods- and I am writing another page response to that).

Also, did you know that Bible scholars agree that the Book of Rev (though placed at the end,) was NOT the last book written. Evidence indicates that 1 John and Jude were written up to 20 years later than the book of Rev. Many also believe that St John was written after the Book of Rev.—Maybe you could ask Harvey about this if you doubt what info I have??

I understand that John, the revelator, was speaking of HIS book “scroll” of Revelation, that people were not to add nor take away from- there was not a Bible yet!! If we were to accept that the position of where the words “not add unto the word” come in the Bible, for not allowing ANY scripture after that, then would can we do about Deut. 4:1 where it says this below?

Deut. 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the astatutes and unto the bjudgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.
2 Ye shall not aadd unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
3 Your eyes have seen what the LORD did abecause of bBaal-peor: for all the men that followed Baal-peor, the LORD thy God hath destroyed them from among you.

Anyway, for me, I expect God to continue with his pattern (template to use your words) of speaking to prophets, as he has shown all through the Bible. We still need it, and also there is Agabus, who was not one of the 12 also called a prophet, with his prophecy supplied in the Bible, and fulfilled too. So the very Bible shows a “template” that there were to be more prophets, and their prophecies were to be written and accepted as scripture. Otherwise, we would have MEN, that you say are NOT prophets, (who gathered together the books into the Bible) making it so we can’t have more of the word of God?

Shouldn’t we try to work with the FLOW of the WHOLE Bible, and not isolate scripture or make it mean more than it says. Yes, there is often more than one way to understand, and that is why the FLOW is important. If the Bible said something like “I, God will not call any more prophets, or give any more scripture, this is the end- I’m not speaking to you any more” then that would be the end. Instead he says that there will be FALSE prophets in the last days, so does that not indicate that there must be at least ONE true one coming?

Others asked me where "substance" used in Creeds of other churches

Creeds of other churches- that I copied from the inter net (I make it a policy to let each share their teachings yet- I got asked for this enough that I will post the creeds in their entirely (so not out of context) and with none of my personal interpretation (so no spin) -- but I recommend that any readers get a member of a faith that believes them to explain them.)

The Nicene Creed
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified; who spake by the Prophets. And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
The Athanasian Creed
Written against the Arians.
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
And the catholic faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy Ghost uncreate. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three Eternals, but one Eternal. As there are not three Uncreated nor three Incomprehensibles, but one Uncreated and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords, but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say, There be three Gods, or three Lords.
The Father is made of none: neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son: neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before or after other; none is greater or less than another; But the whole three Persons are coeternal together, and coequal: so that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshiped. He, therefore, that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe faithfully the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man of the substance of His mother, born in the world; Perfect God and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood; Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but one Christ: One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking the manhood into God; One altogether; not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead; He ascended into heaven; He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty; from whence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give an account of their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire.
This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.

Scrip. Quotes I've gathered- that I use a lot

Pre existence Jer. 1: 5 -- 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Preach of Christ-- 2 Nephi 25: 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
No other name than Jesus Christ-- • Mosiah 5: 8 -- 8 And under this head ye are made free, and there is no other head whereby ye can be made free. There is no other name given whereby salvation cometh; therefore, I would that ye should take upon you the name of Christ, all you that have entered into the covenant with God that ye should be obedient unto the end of your lives.
Simplicity in Christ 2 COR. 11:3-4 -- 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Know God --- 1 John 2:3-5 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected; hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked
Site for the Word was a God
Jesus the redeemer, our judge and is Jehovah the God of the Old Testament, the “I Am”
Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Num. 14:14 And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou Lord art among this people, that thou Lord art seen face to face, and that thy cloud standeth over them, and that thou goest before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night.
1 Cor 10-4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Jesus As Judge Isaiah 26:4 Trust ye in the Lord for ever: for in the Lord JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: …
8 Yea, in the way of thy judgments, O Lord, have we waited for thee; the desire of our soul is to thy name, and to the remembrance of thee. 9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
John 5:22, 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
“I AM “ is Jesus 3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour:
Ex. 3:14 14 And God said unto Moses, aI AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:56- 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Christ created Eph 3:9 --- 9. “… God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:”
Seeth the Father do John 5:19,30-- 19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise…30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Family in heaven---- Eph. 3:14-15 -- 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
One as WE are John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the aworld, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be bone, as we are.
Plural Gods 1 Cor. 8:5 “For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)”
Ye are gods John 10 : 35
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Father greater John 14:12 “…because I go unto the Father and 28 my father is greater than I”
Father greater than all John 10:29-30 -- 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
Happiness- Joseph Smith said that "happiness is the object and design of our existence; and will be the end thereof, if we pursue the path that leads to it; and this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God." 55Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 255).
Disputings/Content- from Bible- 1 Timothy: 5-8 Paul says, “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.”
“Wickedness never was happiness” ( Alma 41:10).
No righteousness= 2 Nephi 2:13 tells us “if there be no righteousness, there be no happiness.”
God gave wives 2 Sam 12:7-8 -- 7 ¶ And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
Gospel preached to dead 1 Peter 4:6 -- 6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
All resurrected 1 Cor. 15: 22-- 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
fruits know them • Matt. 7: 15-16, 20 5 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? • • • 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
3 in Heaven ---1 john 5:7 • For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
3rd Heaven 2 Cor. 12:2 such an one caught up to the third heaven
A Bible, A Bible ---2 Nephi 29
1 But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel;
2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel;
3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.
4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles?
5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people.
6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.
12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.
13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.

Scrip. Mastery for Doc&Cov plus 1st vision of Joseph Smith

1. search these comm.-D&C 1:38-38--- 37 Search these commandments, for they are true and faithful, and the prophecies and promises which are in them shall all be fulfilled. 38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.
2. spirit of revelation- D&C 8:2-3-- 2 Yea, behold, I will tell you in your mind and in your heart, by the Holy Ghost, which shall come upon you and which shall dwell in your heart. 3 Now, behold, this is the spirit of revelation; behold, this is the spirit by which Moses brought the children of Israel through the Red Sea on dry ground.
3. pray always- D&C 10:5 Pray always, that you may come off conqueror; yea, that you may conquer Satan, and that you may escape the hands of the servants of Satan that do uphold his work.
4. gods’ greatest gift- D&C 14:7 7 And, if you keep my commandments and endure to the end you shall have eternal life, which gift is the greatest of all the gifts of God.
5. worth of souls- D&C 18:10, 15-16 ---10 Remember the worth of souls is great in the sight of God; 15 And if it so be that you should labor all your days in crying repentance unto this people, and bring, save it be one soul unto me, how great shall be your joy with him in the kingdom of my Father! 16 And now, if your joy will be great with one soul that you have brought unto me into the kingdom of my Father, how great will be your joy if you should bring many souls unto me!
6. Christ suffered for us- D&C 19:16-19--- 16 For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; 17 But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; 18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit--and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink-- 19 Nevertheless, glory be to the Father, and I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men.
7. song of righteous = prayer- D&C 25:12 For my soul delighteth in the song of the heart; yea, the song of the righteous is a prayer unto me, and it shall be answered with a blessing upon their heads.
8. Anxiously engaged in good- D&C 58:26-27--- 26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. 27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;
9. repentant are forgiven- D&C 58:42-43--- 42 Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more. 43 By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins--behold, he will confess them and forsake them.
10. Keep Sabbath holy- D&C 59:9-10---9 And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day; 10 For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High;
11. forgive one another-D&C 64:9-10 --- 9 Wherefore, I say unto you, that ye ought to forgive one another; for he that forgiveth not his brother his trespasses standeth condemned before the Lord; for there remaineth in him the greater sin. 10. I, the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men. 11 And ye ought to say in your hearts--let God judge between me & thee, & reward thee according to thy deeds.
12. tithed not burned- D&C 64:23 Behold, now it is called today until the coming of the Son of Man, and verily it is a day of sacrifice, and a day for the tithing of my people; for he that is tithed shall not be burned at his coming.
13. J.S. & S.R.. saw Jesus --D&C 76:22-24 ---22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all which we give of him: That he lives! 23 For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father-- 24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.
14. Greater light/>condemnation- D&C 82:3 For of him unto whom much is given much is required; and he who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation.
15. Lord bound>obey- D&C 82:10 I, the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise.

16. Oath & cov. priesthood- D&C 84:33-39 ---33 For whoso is faithful unto the obtaining these two priesthoods of which I have spoken, and the magnifying their calling, are sanctified by the Spirit unto the renewing of their bodies. 34 They become the sons of Moses and of Aaron and the seed of Abraham, and the church and kingdom, and the elect of God. 35 And also all they who receive this priesthood receive me, saith the Lord; 36 For he that receiveth my servants receiveth me; 37 And he that receiveth me receiveth my Father; 38 And he that receiveth my Father receiveth my Father's kingdom; therefore all that my Father hath shall be given unto him. 39 And this is according to the oath and covenant which belongeth to the priesthood.
17. love one another- D&C 88:123 See that ye love one another; cease to be covetous; learn to impart one to another as the gospel requires. 124 Cease to be idle; cease to be unclean; cease to find fault one with another; cease to sleep longer than is needful; retire to thy bed early, that ye may not be weary; arise early, that your bodies and your minds may be invigorated.
18. word of wisdom- D&C 89:18-21 18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones; 19 And shall find wisdom and great treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures; 20 And shall run and not be weary, and shall walk and not faint. 21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the destroying angel shall pass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.
19. many called, few- D&C 121:34-36 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson-- 36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
20. knowl. Rises in Res.- D&C 130:18-19 18 Whatever principle of intelligence we attain unto in this life, it will rise with us in the resurrection. 19 And if a person gains more knowledge and intelligence in this life through his diligence and obedience than another, he will have so much the advantage in the world to come.
21. obedience to law= blessings- D&C 130:20-21 20 There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated-- 21 And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.
22. Father & Son bodies- D&C 130:22-23 22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us. 23 A man may receive the Holy Ghost, and it may descend upon him and not tarry with him.
23. cov. of marriage- D&C 131:1-4 1 IN the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage]; 3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it. 4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.
24. heirs celestial - D&C 137:7-10 7 Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God; 8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts. 10 And I also beheld that all children who die before they arrive at the years of accountability are saved in the celestial kingdom of heaven.
25. The First Vision- Joseph Smith History 1:15-20
15 After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go, having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.
16 But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction--not to an imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never before felt in any being--just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me.
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other--This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)--and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof."
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, "Never mind, all is well--I am well enough off." I then said to my mother, "I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true." It seems as though the adversary was aware, at a very early period of my life, that I was destined to prove a disturber and an annoyer of his kingdom; else why should the powers of darkness combine against me? Why the opposition and persecution that arose against me, almost in my infancy?

Scrip for Mastery from BofM for H.S. students etc

1. go and do- 1 Nephi 3:7 7 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, said unto my father: I will go and do the things which the Lord hath commanded, for I know that the Lord giveth no commandments unto the children of men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them.
2. liken all scrip.- 1 Nephi 19:23 23 And I did read many things unto them which were written in the books of Moses; but that I might more fully persuade them to believe in the Lord their Redeemer I did read unto them that which was written by the prophet Isaiah; for I did liken all scriptures unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning.
3. Adam fell that men- 2 Nephi 2:25 25 Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy.
4. free to choose- 2 Nephi 2:27 27 Wherefore, men are free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.
5. learning good if follow- 2 Nephi 9:28-29 28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish. 29 But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.
6. not justify any sin- 2 Nephi 28:7-9 7 Yea, and there shall be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die; and it shall be well with us. 8 And there shall also be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry; nevertheless, fear God--he will justify in committing a little sin; yea, lie a little, take the advantage of one because of his words, dig a pit for thy neighbor; there is no harm in this; and do all these things, for tomorrow we die; and if it so be that we are guilty, God will beat us with a few stripes, and at last we shall be saved in the kingdom of God. 9 Yea, and there shall be many which shall teach after this manner, false and vain and foolish doctrines, and shall be puffed up in their hearts, and shall seek deep to hide their counsels from the Lord; and their works shall be in the dark.
7. feast on words Christ- 2 Nephi 32:3 3 Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ. Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.
8. Spirit teaches to pray- 2 Nephi 32:8-9 8 And now, my beloved brethren, I perceive that ye ponder still in your hearts; and it grieveth me that I must speak concerning this thing. For if ye would hearken unto the Spirit which teacheth a man to pray ye would know that ye must pray; for the evil spirit teacheth not a man to pray, but teacheth him that he must not pray. 9 But behold, I say unto you that ye must pray always, and not faint; that ye must not perform any thing unto the Lord save in the first place ye shall pray unto the Father in the name of Christ, that he will consecrate thy performance unto thee, that thy performance may be for the welfare of thy soul.
9. seek 1st Gods’ kingdom - Jacob 2:18-19 18 But before ye seek for riches, seek ye for the kingdom of God.
19 And after ye have obtained a hope in Christ ye shall obtain riches, if ye seek them; and ye will seek them for the intent to do good--to clothe the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and the afflicted.
10. serv. others serves God -Mosiah 2:17 17 And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.
11. Nat. man God’s enemy- Mosiah 3:19 19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
12. watch thoughts-Mosiah 4:30 30 But this much I can tell you, that if ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, and observe the commandments of God, and continue in the faith of what ye have heard concerning the coming of our Lord, even unto the end of your lives, ye must perish. And now, O man, remember, and perish not.
13. Faith not perfect knowledge- Alma 32:21 21 And now as I said concerning faith--faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.

14. not procrast. repentance-Alma 34:32-34 32 For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors.
33 And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed.
34 Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.
15. small things> great things- Alma 37:6-7 6 Now ye may suppose that this is foolishness in me; but behold I say unto you, that by small and simple things are great things brought to pass; and small means in many instances doth confound the wise. 7 And the Lord God doth work by means to bring about his great and eternal purposes; and by very small means the Lord doth confound the wise and bringeth about the salvation of many souls.
16. learn early keep com. Alma 37:35 35 O, remember, my son, and learn wisdom in thy youth; yea, learn in thy youth to keep the commandments of God.
17. wicked never happiness- Alma 41:10 10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.
18. Rock of our Redeemer- Helaman 5:1212 And now, my sons, remember, remember that it is upon the rock of our Redeemer, who is Christ, the Son of God, that ye must build your foundation; that when the devil shall send forth his mighty winds, yea, his shafts in the whirlwind, yea, when all his hail and his mighty storm shall beat upon you, it shall have no power over you to drag you down to the gulf of misery & endless wo, because of the rock upon which ye are built, which is a sure foundation, a foundation whereon if men build they cannot fall.
19. Father of contention- 3 Nephi 11:29 29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
20. Be as Jesus- 3 Nephi 27:27 27 And know ye that ye shall be judges of this people, according to the judgment which I shall give unto you, which shall be just. Therefore, what manner of men ought ye to be? Verily I say unto you, even as I am.
21. witness after trial faith- Ether 12:6 6 And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith.
22. weak things strong- Ether 12:27 27 And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.
23. way to judge- Moroni 7:16-17 16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God. 17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.
24. Charity suffereth long- Moroni 7:45 45 And charity suffereth long, and is kind, and envieth not, and is not puffed up, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
25. Holy Ghost reveals truth- Moroni 10:4-5 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. 5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

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1. light of world- Matthew 5:14-16 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
2. two masters- Matthew 6:24 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, & love the other; or else he will hold to the one, & despise the other. Ye cannot serve God & mammon.
3. Art the Christ- Matthew 16:15-19 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
4. least of these- Matthew 25:40 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
5. Handle me-Luke 24:36-39 36 ¶ And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
6. born water & spirit- John 3:5 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
7. obey know doct. John 7:17 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
8. other sheep- John 10:16 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
9. if love me- John 14:15 15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
10. Know only true God - John 17:3 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
11. Godhead- Acts 7:55-56 55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
12. not ashamed- Romans 1:16 16 ¶ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
13. escape temp.-1 Corinthians 10:13 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14. Christ overcame fall- 1 Corinthians 15:20-22 20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead,[&] become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
15. bapt. For dead- 1 Corinthians 15:29 29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
16. degrees glory- 1 Corinthians 15:40-42 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
17. perfect the Saints- Ephesians 4:11-14 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

18. apostasy foretold- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 1 ¶ NOW we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
19. perilous times- 2 Timothy 3:1-5 1 ¶ THIS know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
20. scripture by inspire- 2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
21. priesthood conferred- Hebrews 5:4 4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
22. lack wisdom- James 1:5-6 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
23. faith without works is dead- James 2:17-18 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
24. restoration gospel foretold- Revelation 14:6-7 6 ¶ And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
25. judged accor works- Revelation 20:12-13 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

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1. Gods’ work- Moses 1:39 For behold, this is my work & my glory--to bring to pass the immortality & eternal life of man.
2. Zion people- Moses 7:18 And the Lord called his people ZION, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them.
3. Noble & great- Abraham 3:22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;
23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born.
4. Gods’ image- Genesis 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
5. Joseph fled- Genesis 39:99 [There is] none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou [art] his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?
6. 10 Com.- Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy aidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: 11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.12 ¶ Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
7. face to face- Exodus 33:11And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend...
8. love neighbor- Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
9.covenant marriage- Deuteronomy 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
10. Meditate on scrip- Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
11. Choose serve- Joshua 24:15 ¶ And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
12. looketh on heart- 1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for [the LORD seeth] not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.
13. Redeemer lives- Job 19:25-26 For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth: 26 And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet in my flesh shall I see God:
14. Clean hands- Psalms 24:3-4 ¶ Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? 4 He that hath clean hands, & a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
15. Trust Lord- Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own under-standing. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
16. sins scarlet- Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
17. marvelous-Isaiah 29:13-14 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, [even] a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent [men] shall be hid.
18. Christ suffered sins-Isaiah 53:3-5 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 ¶ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
19. Gods ways--Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
20. send miss.- Jeremiah 16:16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.
21. scrip. one in hand- Ezekiel 37:15-17 ¶ The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, & write upon it, For Judah, & for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, & write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, & for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; & they shall become one in thine hand.
22. stone cut- Daniel 2:44-45 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, [but] it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream [is] certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
23. . secrets to prop.- Amos 3:7 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
24. rob God? -Malachi 3:8-10 8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
25. hearts to fathers- Malachi 4:5-6 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.