Here is a recent "dialogue" on a discussion group.
I have now gone back and re-read all my posts to you.
I see where I have shared my bad experiences with CHARM.-
--(maybe you felt attacked by that?)
Shared some positive LDS things-- like Mormon messages
and I didn't see that you really asked any questions about my faith for me to answer-- I believe that I did answer the quest. you asked about me. I may have missed something.
I do see that in the post where you said you didn't want to go back and read the past posts as Jeff suggested--
that it seems *you* had referred/referenced it to being about CHARM--
but from my reading the posts before that between you and Jeff- it seems the topic was plural gods-- which is why Jeff probably referred you back as that was a VERY recent topic on this thread and had been discussed thoroughly. again, as it was not my dialogue I may have it wrong.
I do still "unequivocally" state that ---
it is not necessary to "knock or bash or rip on " any other specific faith
to show support from the Bible (or our own life)
for our OWN cherished faith or beliefs.
I am reminded of the movie called "Gandhi" (this example is an "over the top" analogy- but it is what came to my mind-- sorry)
-- where when the **awful atrocity** happened where the soldiers shot into the crowd of people who had met peacefully and kept killing them, as even some jumped into the well- to try to get away-- and they killed anything that moved- women and children even!
So the commander in charge of that atrocity-
was being investigated after it-
by his superiors who were appalled at what he had ordered.
And as I remember it, they asked him why- why didn't he show any mercy?
And he mumbled something about that nobody had asked for any--
Then again as I remember it-someone else said something to him about-- did he think that they would walk into the guns shooting them to do so?
Well sorry that this IS **way over the top*** for an example---
***but the principle I think is the same.***
You have said that you want to help save LDS---
but I think to try to do that by
attacking our faith with saying the things you have---
does not inspire me with any reason to trust you or think I would be treated with respect
---- kind of like the old "love me--love my dog"
I love my church and its teachings WAY more than I could any dog--
so -- when I feel that my church (or dog) is
getting kicked by anyone--
I sure don't feel like trusting them with my own welfare, body or soul!!!
I hope that sharing this will help you (or any others) to see how it looks to me.
I think that probably anybody IN a church MUST see *something* in that church that feels good and beautiful to them, or they wouldn't be there?
So, maybe if others instead of trying to "rip it out of their hands/hearts"
would with gentle hands- stand back and OFFER something they feel is BETTER--
(without trying to smear dirt on theirs!!!-- let THEM compare--
as they know what they are taught!!!---
and as for the anti charge that LDS REALLY believe different things than they teach--- is silly to me-- it is hard enough to teach what we believe- and "a house divided against its self will not stand"-- so as we are standing and growing very well- the fruits seem to disprove that charge
My experience is that I have read TONS of anti- I have a whole 3 ring binder with anti pamphlets etc, along with books and books! --- They have my writing all over them, where I have gone to the source and found they are misquotes- distortions and out of context ETC!!!!!!
I think you think LDS are all blindly lead
-- I can speak only for myself. I HAVE looked at both sides, (anti and LDS) plus many other churches. I have "proved all things- held fast that which is good"
So then if the person should feel that something other than LDS is best---
wouldn't they then walk away from what they now see as "less"?
I think so. --- and certainly some DO walk away
--- what I find interesting or ironic-- is that the FRUITS of those
who have left the church (that I know of personally)
do not seem to bear out that it was a good choice.
Nor do they usually go to another church-- but when they decide that maybe they can't live the teachings in ours or they are offended or whatever?
-- that I do not seem to see them finding any other faith that they want to come and share with me.
LDS do NOT believe in "shunning " either.
Anyway-- this is my life experience.
I promote ANY and ALL to share what cherished beliefs they hold true! I like to learn of others faith in Jesus Christ and how their prayers have been answered and their life blessed. Many on here of other faiths have shared that-- and it warms my heart.
I believe that God loves and inspires ALL his children and answers their prayers too! I KNOW some will receive a better reward than some LDS!!
May we all respect each other and their sacred beliefs (even when we may disagree with them) just as we can treat a child kindly who has an "imaginary friend". Gramajane
The Loss of Hope
8 years ago
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